Kylo can't even beat a novice Force user. Round 2. I mean, you can lose a fight and still be extremely close, that's how Star Wars works. Originally a Jedi prophesied to bring balance to the Force, he falls to the dark side of the Force and serves the evil Galactic Empire at the right hand of his Sith master, Palpatine (also known as Darth Sidious). Maul is something more than Ren wishes he could be. As I already said their coordination is likely to be weak so I'll give Maul-Han 7/10. Darth Vader easily broke into Leia's mind). You can't just say that since he hasn't done it on screen, a force user wouldn't be able to stop a force power. With only the one canon example, it's not a sure thing that a dyad would always be composed of a Light Side and a Dark Side, but with the prequel films making the necessity of balance in the Force a central theme, it's a compelling assumption. He can't even beat someone who picked up a lightsaber for the first time. I doubt that team will work together as well as the original, and neither can win on their own. This means the battle is reduced to a single Knight of Ren facing off against a single member of Team Mooku until one combatant is killed and then is replaced by an ally, until only one team remains. He's incredibly lucky, and a very good shot, but blasters aren't usually much use against trained lightsaber duelists. One is the apprentice of Darth Sidious, the other of Snoke. Solo's contribution here is debatable. Here's what we know about the Knights of Ren: They are involved in the deaths of Luke's students, and Kylo Ren is the "master of the Knights of Ren". Jan 31, 2017 - Explore Tony Gaulding's board "Kylo Ren" on Pinterest. Ren probably won't be able to coordinate well with Qui-Gon anyway, so team 1 takes it. That's all speculation. But some of the more "Newer" ones are very popular as well. So in that sense, this feat is kinda iffy when you're talking about using it to demonstrate his power. Kylo: supreme leader of the First Order 27% . Maul already beat Qui-gon with better backup in Obi-wan, so i think Maul wins this round as well. Re: Kylo Ren vs Darth Maul - Force Battle. With him out we have a rematch between Maul and Qui-Gon where Kylo replaced Obi-wan. Definitely Kylo. See more ideas about star wars art, star wars fans, star wars universe. Kylo Ren vs. Darth Maul?" Their chance is for Kylo to throw Maul off balance with large strikes or the force allowing Qui-Gon to take out Maul. It's not defined in canon, but obviously force users have some sort of passive defense against each other's powers, or lightsabers would be irrelevant. Kylo Ren tore down a Jedi temple using just the force, fought and beat 3 of Luke’s best students using Just the force even though at this point Luke had way more knowledge of the force learning from Lor San Tekka. DEATH BATTLE featuring Savage Opress andKylo Renfrom the Movie Series Star Wars. The only part of this I don't agree with is Maul didn't nearly defeat two Jedi 2v1, the only reason he was able to kill Quigon was because Obi-Wan got separated. Rise of Skywalker Kylo Ren. 0. Round 1: Lightsaber Fight with full access to the armada of options the dark side of the force has to offer. Dooku thrashed Anakin and Obi-wan, at the same time, and stood toe-to-toe with Yodu, which is arguably a greater feat. Sorry if this battle seems a bit off, its my first. Qui-gon from force pushing maul into the pit? R2) Kylo opens by freezing Han. Maul took on two jedi by himself and nearly won. The ONLY feat he has that's even remotely worth talking about is stopping a blaster bolt midair. It's a fair point: Kylo likely wasn't fighting at his peak during the aforementioned fights. Dooku was considered one the top duelists in the Jedi order before he left and Maul is probably very close to his skills. But you can't use those "if's" to say that "IF Kylo was full strength and bloodlusted he would've stomped". Maul, the Dathomirian Zabrak male who would become the feared Darth Maul, was born on Dathomir to Kycina, a Human Nightsister of Mother Talzin's coven and a Zabrak father who, by tradition, was murdered after Maul's conception. Maul and Dooku 8/10, Dooku went toe to toe with Yoda, he regularly took on Obi wan AND Anakin and was a huge threat to them 2v1, he'd probably solo Kylo and the knights, Kylo lost to Rey who had never even used a lightsaber. Poll Clone Wars Darth Maul vs TROS Kylo Ren (97 votes) Maul: a former dark lord of the Sith 73% . I don't see this happening, either because Ren would never really do it and because he's never used it against a trained force user, but it is a possibility, so I'll give Ren that 1/10. Now, Maul is being joined by a man who is likely, at least as far as the movies are concerned, a much better combatant than he himself is. It could just be the case that we haven't seen it done in previous content, or that nobody thought to do it, but they actually could if they wanted. Except the battlefield we're presented with would not allow for their numbers to matter much. The machine components of Vader's suit add an extra element of fear, and his iconic mask is the epitome of menacing headgear. Press J to jump to the feed. Kylo isn't beating anyone of note, his only duel showing was terrible so he's tough to gauge. Kylo Ren vs. Darth Maul? "Nobody else has done it" isn't the same as "Nobody else can do it". User Info: KyleKG. and emotionally unbalanced (he just killed his dad). What's to stop anakin from choking obi-wan? As Yoda reluctantly judges the match, Darth Maul and Kylo Ren draw sabers to the death in this parody VS battle I created using Anime Studio Pro 8. The son of Mother Talzin, he was trained by Sidious as a Sith assassin and became an incredibly skilled duelist. Ren from freezing rey in their fight? But the new leak presents a … He is currently the Commander of (and an important facet of leading) the First Order- a political and military organization which was established approximately thirty years after the Battle of Endor. Of course, The Rise of Skywalker would also include another iconic Sith in the form of Palpatine. Kylo Ren Vs Darth Vader Vs Darth Maul + Gameplay Skill Tree | Disney Infinity 3.0 Toy Box Brawls #9. Round 2: Han's a nonfactor, and Qui-Gon's already lost to Maul before. Please comment and subscribe if you want to see more. Still, the Knights' true loyalty did not belong to this master, as their true leader was the Sith Lord Darth Sidious. One of the things Kylo Ren lacks that Qui-Gon Jinn possessed was a mastery over his emotions. Zenwolf. The entire idea that there's a big gap between Ahsoka and Maul in the form of this "serious Maul > holding back Maul who's pretending to look feeble > Ahsoka" argument completely self destructs because Maul had a 2 minute fight with Ahsoka, and during that fight he is furious and frustrated with Ahsoka for getting in his way, and yet their fight resulted in a stalemate, not that I think Maul would've lost had the fight continued, but it's illogical for Maul to deliberately waste time holding back his strength in his fight with Ahsoka because he is clearly hell bent to get to the Sith holocron, corrupt Ezra into becoming his apprentice, exact revenge on. Honestly I think Ren will be surprised and taken off guard by just the pure hatred of Maul. Thus, we're left with minimal combat feats for him, no real combat feats at his peak, and a lack of finished training that doesn't exactly give the impression that he would be too skilled. Ren obviously has issues killing his father, and it takes considerable effort for him to do so, so I doubt he'd be able to bring himself to do so before Maul kills his partner. Feeling let-down by his father, Han Solo, he was seduced to the Dark Side from the evil Supreme Leader Snoke. Now let's talk about that blaster feat. 6 Conclusion Wiz: Star Wars is a very popular series of movies and has lots of great heroes...and Villians. Maul and Dooku take this 10/10. We also know, based upon his interactions with Snoke, that he has not begun his training as a Sith. R3) As said before Maul will stop Kylo in most scenarios. Fight is to the death, on neutral ground, starting distance of 20 yards. In The Clone Wars (newer show) he was shown to be alive after having his lower half cut off by Obi-Wan, which is pretty damn hardcore. They're on a walkway (not a bridge, mind you, but a walkway, which is generally only wide enough for one person) over a bottomless pit. Maul 10/10, Round 2: Even if Kylo killed Han right at the start of the battle, that means that its Kylo and Qui-gon vs Maul. Who wins and why? Kylo Ren has no applicable combat feats.So the real answer is we have no clue, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. On Star Wars, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Who would win? Would you like to react to this message? From what we know, Kylo lost to an untrained Force sensitive. Of course, he was heavily injured and emotionally troubled, blah blah blah, we've all read this argument before. Maul 10/10. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. A NEW Star Wars fan theory suggests a slightly complicated dynamic between Kylo Ren and the Knights of Ren. He could've died in an extremely close fight. Share. That being said, since we've got nothing else to go by, we can't assume that he's an extremely talented duelist, since there's just nothing to support the idea. I don't see any way Ren can win even one of these battles. Of course, what is more likely is that Maul, having shown considerably acrobatic abilities augmented with the force, flips over the Knights' heads, lands on the other side, and the two Sith cut through the Knights from each end. So Maul was able to defeat one Jedi in 1v1 combat, still impressive however he was bested, again, in 1v1 combat by Obi-Wan. 1 Description 2 Interlude 3 Savage Opress 4 Kylo Ren 5 DEATH BATTLE 6 Conclusion Star Wars vs. Star Wars! Making this on a isolated path prevents the Knights from flanking the two sith and Dooku would take them out easily (I would imagine) even if they could. That said, he's not that much of a Force wielder in battle. With the threat of Maul splitting his attention from Han, Han might actually be able to hit Kylo. The Knights of Ren would likely be trained in a more generalized fighting style, taking into account blaster fire etc. Darth Maul vs Kylo Ren Spoof. Kylo Ren and Darth Vader are two of the most powerful villains in the Star Wars universe, but who would win in a fight? Maul was pretending to be weak and feeble when he met Ezra so that he can gain his trust because Ezra a child, Maul dropped the act when Ezra re-introduced Maul to Kanan and Ahsoka, who evidently weren't naive enough to fall for Maul's self victimisation act. Maul isn't superior to Ahsoka while holding back, that's complete nonsense. 5:28. Maul is superior to Ahsoka (while holding back, because he's trying to look feeble and weak), so he's logically close to Vader. Maul 10/10. Like Darth Vader, Emperor Palpatine, Count Dooku, Boba Fett and many, many more. Round 1: Maul destroys Kylo. It's pretty cool that he could stop a fast moving projectile midair with relative ease. lets start! By Shaun Kitchener PUBLISHED: 08:50, Tue, Jun 11, 2019 Assuming Ren's stasis would work on full strength maul kind of shits on all the lore. Even if it doesn't explicitly refer to skill, the Sith, who the knights presumably are emulating, are an organization based on strength. May 23, 2016 4:55AM edited May 2016. By Thomas West Aug 31, 2020. Now, this last line either refers to the fact that they are subservient to him, that he is more powerful or skilled that they are, or a combination of the two. Since this is a pretty significant combat feat in favor of Maul, and Ren doesn't have any combat feats to speak of, Maul likely wins 9/10. Two of my favorite Dark Side characters and both currently pretty useless. Round 3: If Kylo is the strongest of the Knights of ren then i think Maul … Round 2: Even if Kylo killed Han right at the start of the battle, that means that its Kylo and Qui-gon vs Maul. Lightsabers and Blasters Only. Kylo Ren is a young but powerful Force User who was introduced in "Star Wars: The Force Awakens". Darth Vader – 33 per cent (3422) The Emperor – 18 per cent (1897) Grand Admiral Thrawn – 6 per cent (636) Darth Maul – 6 per cent (632) Boba Fett – 6 per cent (631) General Grievous – 4 per cent (458) Greedo – 4 per cent (399) Moff Gideon – 4 per cent (381) Kylo Ren – 3 per cent (354) Grand Moff Tarkin – 3 per cent (330) 10/10. Ren has no real combat feats to speak of, apart from the fights with Rey and Finn. The strongest leads. Who Would Win? Kylo Ren is a fictional character and a major antagonist in the Star Wars franchise. Share Share Tweet Email. Newly leaked Star Wars 9 concept art finds Kylo Ren fighting Darth Vader. The Battle will be fought over a seemingly bottomless pit on a long walkway with the Duel of Fates playing in the background. Star Wars is, without question, one of the most successful entertainment franchises to have ever graced screens. Yeah I know he was hit by a bolt from Chewbacca before the fight with Rey and Finn (which is pretty much the only source of his combat feats as of now,) AND I'm aware that it was able to knock stormtroopers off their feet, but he hasn't really demonstrated much prowess with a lightsaber anyway. He was going to die... with no context whatsoever. Even if Han isn't part of the equation, Maul has taken on Qui-gon and another duelist with much, much better combat feats before at the same time and nearly came out on top, so changing Qui-gon's partner to someone like Kylo, who has many, many less impressive combat feats, and you've got a win for Maul/Han. That being said Obi-Wan got separated due to Maul kicking him off a ledge or something, if I recall. Everything else that he's done has been done multiple times by other characters across all the movies and material, and most of those times they accomplished those feats to a higher degree than he did in the movie (e.g. Kylo lost to Rey who had never even used a lightsaber. A new theory from the latest Star Wars the Rise of Skywalker trailer says Kylo Ren is searching for the Wayfinder on Darth Vader's planet of Mustafar. You are indeed where you belong. "Darth" is a name used by the Sith. and he lost a force duel with Rae in the chair when she has never used it before. There have also been leaks describing Kylo Ren having a vision of Darth Vader and Anakin caught in a moment between the two incarnations. Kylo Ren undoubtedly looks awesome on screen, but he could also easily pass as a random alien knight with a mask. Team 1 wins, but the atmosphere is ruined by the inappropriate usage of Duel of Fates (it's more of a lolstomp than an epic battle.). But the point stands as far as feats go, defensively he can survive multiple opponents however this does not mean he can defeat them. Thus, we have a man who will almost certainly kill Kylo Ren one on one, and a man who is more skilled than the former, against Kylo Ren and six of his (likely less skilled) comrades. During his time among the Jedi, he was considered one of the greatest duelists of his era. Since his training was not complete, he probably doesn't have the experience required to block blaster shots while maintaining his stance. By birth, Maul was a Nightbrother; a clan of male Zabraks from Dathomir who served as warriors and slaves of the dominant Nightsisters. We do, however, have some evidence to the contrary, even if we ignore the aforementioned fights. KyleKG 3 years ago #21. Given that Snoke referred to Kylo in this capacity when speaking of how difficult a trial he would face, I'm inclined to believe that it refers to skill. Additionally, Kenobi is of the Light Side and Maul is of the Dark side, much like Rey and Kylo Ren. Kylo Ren and Darth Maul. And rather than focusing on Maul, the main antagonist of the trilogy was Adam Driver's Kylo Ren. Ok, here we go! 1 Introduction 2 Darth Maul 3 Kylo Ren 4 Intermission 5 DEATH BATTLE! Both are extremely slow and weak. Darth Vader has a major presence in the latest look at Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker.It's no secret that Kylo Ren is a big fan of his grandfather. Comment. From the limited amount we see Kylo fight, it doesn't appear that he has specialized training in these forms (he might be using VII which looks like Mace Windu, but I am not sure of this). Ren's training with Luke was, as far as we can tell, not finished. R1) Peak Maul is a much better fighter than Kylo when it comes to bladework, footwork, or mobility. Round 1. Kylo's only advantage is freezing Maul with the force and that could be hard to pull off, nigh impossible mid fight. Both Darth Vader and Kylo Ren have impressive outfits, although Darth Vader's look certainly takes the cake. Contrast this with Maul, who has been trained by Sidious for a very long time, and is able to fight a Jedi Master and a highly skilled Padawan, at once, in a duel that resulted in the death of one and nearly the death of the other. [4] He is also the father of Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia Organa, grandfather of Kylo Ren, and secret husband of Padmé Amidala. Filoni just said he would've died. Jedi create their lightsabers as a later part of their training, but Ren's lightsaber is specifically something crude and almost homemade, which implies that it was not created as part of his Jedi training but rather done on his own. Dooku could solo, Maul is overkill. However, Maul has bounced back from worse. This. Best feat I recall from Maul is dragging a shuttle off a cliff while injured. So he did separate and eliminate them which I'm assuming he planned, because he most likely realized he couldn't win 2v1. Maul 9/10. He did 3 simultaneously while drugged in TCW, taking out Kylo then 2, then 2, then 2 shouldn't be hard. Late to the party but let's get one thing straight: Kylo Ren, as cool a character as he is, is absolute shite for this sub because he's weak as shit and has close to zero feats. We dont see the Knights of ren really do anything so its hard to judge but Dooku took on Anakin and Obi-wan and fought Yoda to a draw so i really dont see Maul and Dooku both losing. Though he fell in battle against Darth Maul, he would have certainly been a match for Kylo Ren. Discussion board for Star Wars versus matchups and related topics. Dooku just step up front and blasts all 7 of the opponents with lightning in rapis succession. Then in The Last Jedi, Kylo Ren tells Rey of her parents, ... And, according to a leaked image from a Star Wars guide posted on Reddit, Rey might not have been from Jakku originally at all. Savage Opress VS Kylo Ren is a What-If? The Sith were a particular line of Dark Jedi which have brought in other sources of knowledge of the Dark Side of the Force into their collective understanding of the Force. Every side has access to their strongest abilities. About Round 3 - I agree with you. Kylo Ren stopped Poes blaster bolt mid air, so he clearly needs a speed increase. Check out our MERCHANDISE: https://viralstyle.com/store/ViralKiller/shopKylo Ren vs Darth MaulWho would win? Round 2: Each side has to fight alongside the last person the opponent killed. He was incredibly wounded (shot by a weapon that not only 1 hit killed people throughout the entire film, but also sent them flying away. As such, only the master could command the six elite warriors known as Ap'lek, Cardo, Kuruk, Trudgen, Ushar, and Vicrul. Yeah, we've all heard the arguments about how Chewie's shot really incapped him for the fight, and how he wasn't intent on killing Rey. Last week, some artwork that was supposedly from Colin Trevorrow's first version of the movie found its way online. Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue. RP_Grump posted... Zack_Attackv1 posted... lol at this even being a question. All canon feats allowed. With Powerful Connections to the Force and taught by Powerful Wielders of the Dark Side, Which of these two Dark Apprentices shall be victorious?! Though he supposedly died on Naboo at the hands of Obi-Wan Kenobi, he resurfaced years later, having survived through his sheer hatred. The combatants are Darth Maul as he was pre-slicing and Kylo Ren in peak condition. Round 3: Ren gets 6 guys who are almost certainly less skilled than he is, while Maul gets the help of another seasoned lightsaber duelist who's arguably better. The Dark Acolyte … Maul was a Dathomirian Zabrak and the apprentice of Darth Sidious, the Dark Lord of the Sith. BUT the thing is we don't know if this is really a feat at all because the only thing that makes it stand out is that nobody else has done it. No Force oriented abilities except for utility purposes such as retrieving lightsabers. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! Round 3: Darth Maul backed by Count Dooku vs Kylo Ren and 6 Knights of Ren. His fighting technique is sloppy even thought his Force powers are decent. This means its Darth Maul and Han Solo Vs Kylo Ren and Qui-Gon-Jinn. Stuwart. Star Wars A Galaxy Far, Far Away Stage Show - with Darth Vader, Kylo Ren, and Darth Maul (Andersonwarwick25. That argument has no basis in fact, nor reality. That being said, I feel that unless Qui-gon Jinn is the one to kill Han (something that would be out of character for him to do, as far as we know), I think Han could serve to distract Kylo while Maul kills Qui-gon. Rebels era Darth Maul. Numbers count for something, of course, so maybe the Knights of Ren could give them a run for their money. Round 1: Maul just dances around Ren with a smug grin on his face until he's bored and turns him into charred sushi. The battle between the two users on the dark side that never reached their full potential. In addition to commanding the Troops of the First Order, Kylo Ren is also a member of the Knights of Ren: … I hate her character but this is just stupid. Thus, it can be assumed that Kylo Ren is the most powerful or most skilled of the Knights of Ren. Maul would destroy him, Maul is a sith... Ren is a pussy who got his ass handed to him by 2 people who never held lightsabers. Then beat the knight of Ren singlehanded even though they killed Jedi before. Whilst they were wearing armour.) Maul 9/10. Thus, it's likely that, even if "master of the Knights of Ren" refers to a position of command and in no way refers to skill, that Kylo only came to this position, or only holds it, through power. 137 posts Member. It also helps that Dooku's form (II) specialises in lightsaber vs lightsaber fights. SFM Kylo Ren Starwars raw animation Test1. Maul already beat Qui-gon with better backup in Obi-wan, so i think Maul wins this round as well. Straight up light sabers I'd give it to maul, but kylo ten has the ability to put someone in stasis, so if he abused that I don't really see what maul could do to counter that. We don't know if Ren's paralysis ability would affect Maul, but if it does, and if Ren goes for that move (something we have no reason to believe he'd do), he'd have a chance to kill Maul. Larger-scale feats before his prime and ragdolling multiple Jedi at once (granted, Luke's students don't appear to have been the most powerful of Jedi) should put him well above Maul's level. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. This series of singular duels isn't going to work in the Knights' favor. Round 3. Level One. Spoof and original music created by F.Sudol, thanks for watching. Other than that, Kylo has only taken part in one duel with another Force sensitive so far and he got shat on. And keep in mind that he's actually great with a lightsaber, being able to handle Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon at once (probably would've won if he wasn't being cocky after knocking down Obi-Wan.) This is a Force only battle - no other weaponry involved. About Round 2 - Blocking blaster bolts with a lightsaber in a combat situation requires quite a bit of training and a specific form (III or V, which look like Obi Wan and Vader respectively). 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