C-3PO lost those memories, but he remained with Han and Leia's family after Return of the Jedi, so can reasonably be assumed to have learned the truth by eavesdropping. And there are clear moments when the darker tendencies of Anakin manifest themselves. Darth Vader looks up and sees the convor that he knew as a manifestation of the Force around Ahsoka. t.src=v;s=b.getElementsByTagName(e)[0]; It's possible Mas Amedda was in the loop, but that hasn't been confirmed. My point is, I think Obi-Wan did not know about their relationship until right before meeting with Padme, that is WHY he went to meet Padme. This did not sit right with Obi-Wan, who felt that Ahsoka deserved to know the truth when she had to work closely with both … Good topic. A graduate of Edge Hill University in the United Kingdom, Tom is still strongly connected with his alma mater; in fact, in his spare time he's a voluntary chaplain there. if(cs_sd.partner == 'CMfacebook') { Luke cannot know Vader was Anakin until he is ready to know this. She knows Anakin is in trouble, but she doesn’t know why or what happened. C-3PO's memories were completely restored by R2-D2 in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker, and he now remembers the whole saga. He was telling the truth and expressed that something bad was on the horizon and if they worked together, they could face Darth Sidious. Vader everytime lol. Ahsoka has a vision of Anakin implying that he is Darth Vader, in “the episode of season 2 of” STAR WARS REBELS “,” Shroud of darkness “| Lucasfilm Maul told Ahsoka Anakin that she was prepared to be Darth Sidious’s apprentice and that she did not believe him. Yes, the long awaited/dreaded showdown between Ahsoka and Darth Vader, a.k.a. It’s this scene that really shows how she represses the fact that Anakin turned into Darth Vader. She attempted to use this knowledge to cause discord in Imperial forces, revealing it to a group of Stormtroopers who had arrested her, but Darth Vader killed them all in order to preserve his secret. On close analysis, how much did Ahsoka and Obi-Wan actually know? Since Vader was, in fact, Luke's father, it makes it even worse that he cut his own son's hand off moments before the big reveal. Ahsoka was rescued by Ezra Bridger using the World Between Worlds, and her actions from that point on are something of a mystery. "She'd always wondered what had led her father to turn to the dark side," Leia reflected, "to become Darth Vader. His three closest people – Ahsoka, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Padmé – deny this possibility. Then, as Clone Wars fans know, she ultimately left the Jedi Order after being falsely accused of a crime, and for all intents and purposes, moved past Skywalker. In The Empire Strikes Back, Darth Vader revealed the shocking truth to Luke; that he was really Anakin Skywalker, Luke's father. Darth Vader needed this to extinguish Anakin forever. https://screenrant.com/star-wars-vader-anakin-identity-characters-know Page 2 of 2 < Prev 1 2. s_heffley Chosen One. But, if he had heard, or grew up knowing, that Vader's … When the public finds Ahsoka on the screen, it’s in season 2 of Star wars rebels. Darth Vader's true identity was a closely-guarded secret during Palpatine's reign - but there's still a few characters confirmed to know it. Registered: … Ahsoka absolutely couldn’t believe his former master would turn like this, and fought Maul instead of joining him. Previously, he's written entertainment news and articles for Movie Pilot. However, she asked him why he wanted to bring Anakin Skywalker to Mandalore in the first place. She says only good things, but it is obvious that she thinks that he died in Order 66. A strategic genius if not a political one, Thrawn swiftly deduced Darth Vader was in fact Anakin Skywalker. Season 7 is shortened and has a lot to do to end the series, but “Shattered” has really made a number on its fans. According to James Luceno's novel Tarkin, there were countless rumors about Darth Vader's true identity. The interesting question is whether or not Palpatine told some of his closest advisers about Darth Vader's true identity, or whether he quite enjoyed cultivating an air of mystery even among the upper echelons of the Empire. He had deduced Darth Sidious' plans, figuring out the Emperor's goal was to seduce Anakin Skywalker to the dark side, and consequently, he would have immediately guessed who this mysterious Sith Lord really was. One of the longest-running mysteries of Star Wars Rebels was of what happened to Ahsoka Tano in the Season 2 finale after she faced off against Darth Vader. Even if the audience continues, “Come on, he killed a village of men, women and children too! Ahsoka would not approach Vader with love -- nor did she. !function(f,b,e,v,n,t,s) To her horror, she realized she would never be able to reach Anakin, and so instead engaged him in what should have been a duel to the death. It’s very progressive, but so obvious when you know where your story ends. Over the years, Tom has built a strong relationship with aspects of the various fan communities, and is a Moderator on some of Facebook's largest MCU and X-Men groups. Tom's focus tends to be on the various superhero franchises, as well as Star Wars, Doctor Who, and Star Trek; he's also an avid comic book reader. if(!f._fbq)f._fbq=n;n.push=n;n.loaded=!0;n.version='2.0'; He too had the wisdom to keep quiet about the knowledge, although he did indicate his suspicions to Vader in Thrawn: Alliances. But they may well not have known the full truth, or else had it filtered through "a certain point of view.". That's about as cold-blooded as it gets. He then asks her if she knows what has become of him, with Darth Vader’s breathing in the background. It's interesting to note that, while Obi-Wan Kenobi sent a warning message to the other Jedi telling them to flee and to hide, he didn't tell them about Anakin Skywalker's fall to the dark side. Obi-Wan and Anakin had spoken many times about being open with Ahsoka about his past. Maul shared that Anakin was healed by Sidious to become his next apprentice and destroy the Jedi. She has a vision where Anakin accuses her that she left him when he needed her. We do not know what Ahsoka did after the events seen in the Star Wars: Rebeles episode entitled World Between Worlds. {if(f.fbq)return;n=f.fbq=function(){n.callMethod? Star Wars: The Clone Wars season 7 strongly suggests Darth Maul had figured out Anakin Skywalker's fate. Anakin Skywalker's Padawan during the Clone Wars, Ahsoka was one of the few survivors of Order 66, and she became a key agent of the Rebel Alliance in the years before the Battle of Yavin IV. But Tarkin knew better than to voice his suspicions. There was a lot R2 was smart not to tell Luke about cause it wouldn't have been good for his training, but after ROTJ he basically knew … Pre-Suit Vader had the advantage during most of the saber fight, but not to the same level he did against Ahsoka.. Not to mention Obi Wan and Anakin … All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. Between Maul’s vision and what she feels in the Force, Ahsoka is in denial. Here are all the ones confirmed to date in the various Star Wars tie-ins. Jocasta Nu was one of the few survivors of Order 66 to figure out the truth about Anakin Skywalker, having learned this when a medical droid scanned the Sith Lord. It's impossible to say whether Obi-Wan told Owen and Beru Lars. And when Ahsoka is on the hyperspace ship en route to deliver Maul to the Jedi on Coruscant, she feels Anakin’s betrayal and his fall. When she finally confronts Vader, she reveals that she was starting to think the two were one, but she still denies him. Ahsoka Tano is a character in the Star Wars franchise. Click the button below to start this article in quick view. More: Darth Vader Confronts Rise of Skywalker's Cut Mustafar Alien. Anakin wasn’t exactly … n.queue=[];t=b.createElement(e);t.async=!0; Many fans think Ahsoka’s decision to leave the Jedi Order, and Anakin by proxy, was one of the factors that led Anakin to turning to the dark side and becoming Darth Vader. How exactly they parted ways remained a mystery for approximately 2 years. Certainly they knew enough to resent Obi-Wan, holding him responsible for what had happened to Anakin, and fearing Luke would follow in his father's footsteps. Given that Vader … Snips and Skyguy, is here. There was a lot to deal with in episode 11 of Star Wars: The Clone Wars. However, it is difficult to know how much she can hear or know. It wasn't until Return of the Jedi that Luke told Leia, but interestingly her focus appears to have been more on the fact Luke was her brother than Darth Vader was her father. fbq('init', '1447317708679797'); The season finale, which will air on Star Wars The day of Monday May 4 will show how Ahsoka and Rex escape from a ship full of armed clones to kill Ahsoka. 2 years ago. }. [Alertspoiler:Spoilerstocomefor[Spoileralert:Spoilersaheadfor[Alertespoiler:Spoilersàvenirpour[Spoileralert:SpoilersaheadforStar Wars: The Clone Wars Season 7, until episode 11]. Luke fodderizes Ahsoka. Ahsoka began to suspect the truth about Darth Vader in Star Wars Rebels season 2, and her worst fears were confirmed when she confronted the Sith Lord in the dramatic season finale. She had encountered the Dark Lord of the Sith a handful of times during her political career, but her abiding memory of Vader was as her torturer on the Death Star. Actually, what about R2? It’s 15 years later, and Ahsoka is now a rebel spy and creator of Fulcrum (a name for a spy industry to which Cassian Andor belonged). And I don't think HE had any objections to the relationship, except the fact that Anakin was going to the Dark Side. We also know Ahsoka Tano will see Anakin Skywalker for the first time in his new, more machine-like state. For example, a source which includes a quote of Anakin calling himself Vader in the Jedi Temple and in the presence of clones from the 501st would prove that the 501st knew his true identity; on the other hand, a source which includes a quote of a 501st clone referring to Vader as Anakin would indicate that the 501st did not know the two were the same man. ", Related: Kylo Ren's Star Wars Backstory: Everything That Happened Before The Sequels. She says in the Ahsoka novel, that she doesn’t feel Anakin’s (Or Obi Wan’s) presence, but she keeps trying to sense something. Never had she considered that the turn might begin in a better place, out of the desire to save someone or to avenge a great wrong. Related: Darth Vader Makes A Star Wars Movie Moment Even Darker. This explains to fans why she didn't appear in Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith, starring Hayden Christensen as Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader. With that moment came Ahsoka’s experience with Anakin’s turn to the dark side, even if she didn’t want to find out until more than a decade later. anakin_luver, Jul 26, 2005 #8. darkjedi_david Jedi Youngling. Rebels Ahsoka is confirmed sub Rebels (post prime) Maul, who himself admitted he cannot beat Vader. 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Ironically it was Ahsoka herself who broke away from Anakin. After all, consider this: after being enraged, Vader not only survives Ahsoka without taking another hit, but he also made it out of a massive explosion that Ahsoka seemingly did not. TCW Ahsoka is fodder. Now all The Clone Wars led to Anakin’s turn on the dark side. Ahsoka learned Anakin Skywalker was the true identity of Darth Vader during Star Wars Rebels. She clearly never told the Rebel Alliance what she had learned, although she may well have discussed it privately with Bail Organa. However one thing I'm not sure Rebels addressed was if Ahsoka knew Obi Wan was alive. Maul is probably the one who walks through the door of the room they are in, but the episode is essentially a mystery as it touches on parts of the story that no one knows the end of. He is, of course, capable of such a thing “, the three who loved him the most had so much confidence in him, the Dark Side was not even an option for him. So did Ahsoka … Better being a relative term, of … While it's been a number of years, and Obi-Wan seems to accept that the "Darth Vader" persona had murdered the "Anakin" one (at least, from a certain point of view), you'd think he would have at least taken a chance at reminding him who he was, given all the years Anakin has had to potentially cool down and see things rationally again (Ahsoka tries in Rebels, and does manage … It's unknown whether or not Maul ever realized Obi-Wan Kenobi was the one to cripple Vader; he would have found a certain dark humor in that. Anakin can be seen through Darth Vader’s mask and saw the convor. Before we look ahead, we wanted to look back at better times. Plo Koon died at the end of the Clone Wars while the only known meeting between … Fortunately, while the protocol droid is hardly discreet, he wouldn't have seen the need to tell anyone unless it came up in conversation. The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. The sad truth of both situations was that Ahsoka never had the opportunity to reconcile with either of them. We can’t avoid it any longer. In fact, it was Thrawn's name-dropping Anakin that initially persuaded Palpatine to allow the Chiss into his presence in the first place. He knew about Ahsoka. Master Yoda and Obi-Wan Kenobi are the most obvious ones who were in on the secret. While Vader's face and voice made it nearly impossible to recognize his identity, Tarkin felt like Vader already had a familiarity with him, meaning he may have been someone Tarkin was already well acquainted with. 'https://connect.facebook.net/en_US/fbevents.js'); However, when she cuts off Vader’s mask and Anakin’s voice is heard, the horrible truth is confirmed for Ahsoka. Grand Admiral Thrawn had encountered Anakin Skywalker during the Clone Wars while on reconnaissance missions detailed in Thrawn: Alliances and Thrawn Ascendancy: Chaos Rising. CT Did Luke know about Ahsoka? Worse still, Bail had a lot to lose if he was found out, because a close look at his affairs could well have led Vader to realize the orphan in Bail's care was actually his own daughter, Leia. While he never confirmed it outright, Tarkin had a brilliant tactical mind and recognized Anakin's technique with a lightsaber, his military strategy, and his interaction with the stormtroopers under his command. The public hears Mace Windu’s attack on Sidious and Anakin intervene. i want to be perfectly clear in what i am saying here Ahsoka … The Disney canon has done wonders for Bail, helping readers to understand what made this complicated man tick, encouraging them to appreciate his strategic brilliance as he worked to form the Rebel Alliance while being closely monitored by Palpatine and his forces. They kept it to themselves, although some of Leia's more observant political allies such as Mon Mothma became suspicious. As painful as Anakin's transformation into Darth Vader was for Ahsoka, knowing that a cherished mentor like Plo Koon stopped believing in her so easily must have felt worse. When Ezra asks questions about his former master, Ahsoka sadly talks about Anakin. Does Ahsoka really know that her former master has become a Sith Lord? Luke uses the Skywalker name growing up; on Tatooine at least, that's not incredibly dangerous, as Shmi Skywalker was known to be Cleeg Lars' wife, and a slave before that; who knows who Watto made her shack up with to pay or buy someone off? And Anakin is a good guy and one of the best Jedi of the time. It wasn't until Bloodline that she began to truly understand Anakin Skywalker, in a situation where she too felt tempted. Bail Organa was present during the climactic end of Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith, and there can be no doubt he was aware of Darth Vader's true identity. Jedi Master Anakin Skywalker was a celebrated hero of the Clone Wars, and the galaxy believed he was killed during Order 66, along with the rest of the Jedi. Anakin Skywalker was clinging to the light as Darth Vader was pulling him farther and farther to the dark. But what is it Star Wars without revealing a dramatic identity, right? Also, keep in mind that the people to whom the secret of Vader's past is most important to keep are the Jedi, not the Empire. The secret was kept even after the events of Return of the Jedi, with Luke sharing the knowledge only with his immediate family; Han, Leia, C-3PO, and R2-D2. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Then Order 66 is executed and she has her own problems to deal with. Therefore, she'd be on the receiving end of all of his hatred. "Many believed that the Emperor’s willingness to grant so much authority to such a being heralded the shape of things to come," Luceno writes, "for it was beyond dispute that Vader was the Empire’s first terror weapon. Obi Wan beats Leia and then gets creamed by Luke and Anakin. fbq('track', 'PageView'); Instead, the diminutive droid appears to have kept his own counsel, perhaps wary of interfering too much in Luke's personal journey. Related: Darth Vader Betrayed The Emperor Before Return Of The Jedi. The Emperor knew the truth, that Anakin Skywalker was really Darth Vader, and he seems to have been the one who decided it should remain a closely guarded secret. Then again, I could be wrong. He then cut Jocasta Nu down for good measure. You have entered an incorrect email address! s.parentNode.insertBefore(t,s)}(window, document,'script', Darth Vader's true identity was a closely guarded secret, and only a handful of people knew he was really Anakin Skywalker. Tom Bacon is one of Screen Rant's staff writers, and he's frankly amused that his childhood is back - and this time it's cool. in the Ahsoka novel, which takes place a year later Revenge of the Sith, Ahsoka cuts herself off from the Force, and when she draws on it again, the Force connection she shared with Anakin is gone. Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by Darth_Joyous, Oct 19, 2020. After season 2 finale of Rebels aired and Ahsoka supposedly died, many still speculated that she survived the encounter with Vader. When Ahsoka finally came face to face with Maul in their massive battle over Mandalore, he actually presented an open proposal to Ahsoka. Ahsoka … He was so distorted and beaten that his intense emotions betrayed him and Palpatine was able to twist his mind and his logic. The only main character in Rebels to know was Ezra. When Ahsoka finally came face to face with Maul in their massive battle over Mandalore, he actually presented an … Even though Ahsoka didn’t know about the impending Jedi purge, she could sense the growing dark side and knew her chances might be better if she made an alliance with Maul. Unlike C-3PO, R2-D2 never had a memory wipe in Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith. But, alas, that’s what happened. She chose to leave the Jedi Order after she was wrongly accused of bombing the Jedi Temple. She'd imagined it came from ambition, greed, or some other venal weakness. Tarkin had worked with Anakin Skywalker during the Clone Wars, and he found the Dark Lord of the Sith eerily familiar, even recognizing some of his tactics. No doubt Palpatine quite liked the mystique, which would ensure people focused on Vader as the Dark Lord of the Sith rather than thought too much about his Master. Finally, the truth exploded into the open in Claudia Gray's novel Bloodline, destroying Leia's political career - and shaking her son Ben Solo to the core, for even he had been unaware he was the grandson of Darth Vader. However, those who love him simply cannot imagine this man doing such a thing. Darth Vader was seen as a mysterious and enigmatic force, a powerful being who suddenly burst onto the scene as the Emperor's enforcer. He's heavily involved with his local church, and anyone who checks him out on Twitter will quickly learn that he's interested in British politics as well. When Anakin put on his “Jedi Master” hat and mentored Ahsoka, he often served as surrogate father figure. He finally showed Order 66 from a different perspective than what the public saw in Revenge of the Sith when it came out in 2005. Registered: Jun 7, 2015. Some believed he was a counterpart to the Confederacy's General Grievous, held in reserve by Palpatine in case the Jedi betrayed him; others considered him to be an artificial monster created in a laboratory. Anakin needed to be shown this, so he would let go. In Claudia Gray's novel Bloodline, Leia reflected on how uncomfortable she felt with being the daughter of Darth Vader. All we knew after seeing Twilight of the … He knew he was Luke's father and he still cut his hand off. Well, if you look at the evidence presented to you, it’s a lot. 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Anakin and Ahsoka’s relationship was at most that of big brother and little sister, in that Anakin was a lot older than the Ahsoka. James Luceno's novel Tarkin confirms the Grand Moff had deduced who Darth Vader really was. A New Hope served as the film that started a lot of things within the Star Wars universe. Learn the few people throughout the galaxy that knew Darth Vader's true identity as Anakin Skywalker! It is complicated. As far as she is concerned, Anakin died when Vader was born. Maul's comments about Vader and silent attitude when Vader's Tie Advanced passes over the black ceiling on Malachor … What's more, the two Jedi Masters would have been reluctant to draw the attention of any Jedi survivors to Anakin Skywalker, lest they try to redeem him, or even worse somehow uncovered the existence of the twins. The actual scene from Revenge of the Sith plays on Ahsoka, while she loops in horror. He is Jedi Master Anakin Skywalker, who almost got himself killed during Order 66. She takes this to say that he is dead, and never entertains the idea that he has turned into Darth Vader, Sidious’s new apprentice as Maul said. Introduced as the Jedi Padawan of Anakin Skywalker, who later becomes Sith Lord Darth Vader, she is a protagonist of the 2008 animated film Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the subsequent television series.Ahsoka reappears in Star Wars Rebels, where she uses the codename Fulcrum, and as a voiceover cameo in Star Wars: … You can’t keep a persistent Sith down. A one-stop shop for all things video games. n.callMethod.apply(n,arguments):n.queue.push(arguments)}; Anakin absolutely demolishes Mace. Leia seems to have told Han the full story pretty quickly, and it's reasonable to assume Han told Chewie in turn, but there's actually no evidence for this. Since Ahsoka is a very strong Jedi, it’s think that at some point she would sense Anakin as Vader in the Force, perhaps in a time that they were nearby, Vader was feeing weak (I don’t know how else to phrase it), or maybe Palpatine assisting her to sense … As closely guarded a secret as this may have been, there were a handful of people who knew the truth. Ahsoka held her ground, and just as Vader was about to deliver a killing blow, Ezra pulled Ahsoka through a portal. Palpatine, Luke, Han, Leia, and many others secretly knew the real identity of Darth Vader. Even if it led to evil, that first impulse might be born of loyalty, a sense of justice, or even love.". However, Anakin had decided against telling her, choosing to keep what had happened to him on Tatooine with his mother a secret from his apprentice. I don't think he's met either Anakin nor Vader. 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